The last time Pam Hawkes owned a Peter Moody-trained filly making her debut down the Flemington straight was in April 2009 when the unraced Black Caviar began her unbeaten 25-win career, cementing herself as one of the all-time legends of the sport.
This time around it's the champion's daughter who gets her chance when Black Caviar's fifth foal, Invincible Caviar, debuts in Saturday's 1100-metre two-year-old fillies race at Headquarters.
Hawkes says Moody hasn't changed his training style much in more than a decade. According to her, he doesn't give much away even to the owners and just says let the horses talk for themselves on race day.
The daughter of I Am Invincible has the same colouring as mum and a similar physique, and she's also the first of Black Caviar's offspring to be trained by her former trainer.
"We've had a good relationship with all of the trainers who've had her progeny, but of course it's special to be back with Peter," Hawkes said.
"He's a great bloke and it's nice getting some familiar videos from him where he talks about how this filly also gets angry if she has to wait on her food like the big horse did."
Hawkes has always called Black Caviar the 'big horse', obviously because of her imposing size but also when she became a legend while still racing it was easier to talk about her in those terms when eager eavesdroppers were around.
"Being back with Peter and having this girl who we've heard a lot about from the start, it does get you excited going into Saturday," Hawkes said.
"As long as she acquits herself well, that's all we want to see, we obviously can't be on course with COVID restrictions but we'll just be keeping a low profile and crossing our fingers.
"We've loved all of her foals and certainly feel that we didn't see close to the best of some of them, but from early days with this filly, Shannan who breaks them all in also had a soft spot for her. She's always liked her food and her work, Shannon would say that she never did anything wrong.
"We'd love to see this one win a few races and prove the myth wrong that these good mares don't throw anything of worth."
With Luke Nolen unable to take the ride after the recent passing of his mother and an injury issue, Brian Higgins has been booked.
Moody also isn't guaranteeing we'll see Invincible Caviar debut on Saturday, saying he's a bit concerned about the track conditions and that he probably wouldn't run her if it becomes too soft by race day.
"She's had a couple of jumpouts at home and a few nice gallops," he said.
"The gallops on firm ground have been terrific, the gallops on Soft ground have been just ok, so that tells me that she wants to be on top of the ground, that will be one of her main things leading into this time of year, I want to make sure that I run her on firm ground."